Nasser speaks with Héritier Lumumba, an Australian-Brazilian-Congolese former professional AFL player, known for his advocacy in human rights, focusing on racial equality, refugee rights, and supporting marginalised communities.

They discuss the history of the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC), Western imperialism and European colonisation, the exploitation under King Leopold and the abuse, mutilation, and deaths of Congolese people, the extraction of the country's minerals, and the environmental and climate justice implications of this continued exploitation.

Nasser also plays an excerpt from the documentary Soundtrack to a Coup d'Etat (2024), which explores how Abbey Lincoln and Max Roach protested at the UN Security Council over Patrice Lumumba's murder.

For more info on the challenges of the Congo and to support Congolese institutions, head to friendsofthecongo.org.

Image credit: @hlumumba