Marisa interviewed Ali, who is imprisoned in Adelaide Detention Centre. He spoke about a 23 year old man who eied tragically in the custody of Mita Detention Centre, Melbourne.

Marisa then interviewed Anthony Kelly, Chief Executive Officer of Flemmington, Kensington Community Legal Centre, about the Royal Commission into mental health, and the submission that was prepared by the Police Accountability Project.

Finally, Marisa interviewed Naomi Murphy, a First Nations woman, who rejected a Naidoc Award for her incredible work in Community, because the Award was sponsored by Serco. Naomi also spoke about Stolen generation, and the criminalisation of Aboriginal people and Asylum seekers. An underlying theme of the interview was Naomi's lived experience of the justie system, and how she acquired healing.