First up we are joined by Margaret Pestorius from Wage Peace Australia to talk about their work, that has seen them be recognised internationally as winner of World Beyond War's Organizational War Abolisher of 2023.

We preview their fantastic new podcast series Get Your Armies Off Our Bodies, that shares stories against the war machine, from peace campaigns in Australia and around the world.

Then we are joined by Hamish McPherson, primary school teacher in regional Victoria and delegate of the Australian Education Union (AEU) and Frances, a secondary school teacher and member of Friends of the Earth's Nuclear Free Collective to speak about the work they are doing organising against the military agenda in the school curriculum such as the recently launched Defence Department's Nuclear Propelled Submarine Challenge.

AEU members have been passing motions at their branches and are linking up across the country.  To find out more and get a list of simple actions you can take go to the Teachers say NO to defence in schools page on the Friends of the Earth Melbourne website.