When we say 'nature', what do we mean? What is conservation actually conserving? Does extinction matter? In her new book Human/Nature, author Jane Rawson asks those very questions, and more. In this episode, we get philosophical about nature. Plus, we chat to Jane about her earlier books and her fascination with cephalopods.

You can catch Jane speaking with James Whitmore at The Sun Bookshop on 1 May: https://www.eventbrite.com.au/e/humannature-jane-rawson-in-conversation-...